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 PostPosted: September 27th, 2013, 8:02 pm   
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Here ya go Hydroid...I know both the guys in the boat personally (Ted better than Dave) and IMO they both should know the importance of at least appearing to care about safe performance boating. Especially with the recent events drawing more (negative) attention to those boats in particular. Now...you realize that this is the Internet and we're all bored at work so we all have time to be holier than thou so take all of these opinions with a grain of Meth...

Dave's spill has everything to do with why safety should at least be on his mind...I did a Alliston turn in my T on Friday (still milking it P@) and it just illustrated the point that shit can happen out of the clear blue sky...and that shit hurts. It's so easy to say that these OLD :) experienced guys know better than me the Internet safety patrol...but it's that same experience that gives you a false sense of "I got this" or like Earnhardt not needing a HANS device or to actually tighten his seat belts.

At the end of the day I do agree with you...we don't NEED to keep harping on this...we can live and let live....I mean my slow witted cousin spends more on having his prop cupped than it would cost him for a REAL life jacket FFS.

Sorry if I offended either Davee or Speedmaster Ted....but if you're gonna go without a lifeline at least man up and lose the shirts team80s style :).

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[quote="79jcraft"]Just to clarify" I have kept my personal thoughts and feeling about you to myself..so keep your comments to yourself and I wont use you as an anchor when I finally meet you one day :)
Dude you should have kept your thoughts and feelings to yourself ... but you did not :twisted: We seen you little bullshit message you sent Boomer... WTF Pal ? :evil:

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 PostPosted: September 27th, 2013, 8:53 pm   
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Ooooh, been quiet here for 2hrs, everyone out of breath or reloading?
I just love the deterioration of and off original topic, like an ADD convention. My turn to lay it on thick, my rant way overdue.
The pilot is Davee(Elsey) and Teddy Gryguc on the right, 2 among a handful of probably the most experienced performance boat drivers/builders in Ontario. Personally, I'll defer to their experience and safety sensibility before I judge at what point/speed/craft type/conditions the next requisite safety steps should be implemented according to my subjectivity.
Come on, where does this Nanny State, self-righteous safety preaching finally end? Who’s sensibility is the definitive safe/unsafe determinant for speed/conditions/ type of craft(vhull vs thull)/ headwind/experience/having 1 drink(legal!), and on & on & on. And WTF does Davee spilling out at 55mph coming out of a corner at WF have to do with this?...He also fell off his bike as a kid. I know for a fact he was one of very few T racers who had full safety compliant/buoyant boat that weekend; I know most didn’t, myself included.
Geez, pretty sure I was recently among several doing ~90-100mph, some without helmets/flak jackets/tethers/rescue boat/bubble wrap. Correct, there is no difference going 100 vs 140 other than whole recovery vs fish food. Oh, let’s get into social costs discussion, unnecessary tax dollar spending; go reach up Mike Duffy’s arse or Pamela Wallin’s snatch for your stinking tax dollars. Tackle social costs of smoking/obesity/self-inflicted porn blindness?....leave the few HPB’ers alone.
Performance boating is one of few mildly regulated frontiers of performance motorsport, largely governed by one’s own sensibility of self-preservation, on whichever side of disaster that may rest. It doesn’t need to be judged every time on this forum. Didn’t we already go through that BS with Boomers infamous welcome here, shredding him to shit within first week for deck surfing?....Oh geez, he’s a nice guy, all forgotten and forgiven; no shit, we could have done without the judgmental online drama ad nauseum.
Here’s this week’s Safety Crusader challenge: when you see another driver hurtling 120+kph down the road with a cellphone to their head, exercise your righteous outrage to pull them over, or at next stoplight, lecture safety, theirs/yours/your kid/dog/others, tell them how F’n goofy they are, should know better…..or is that just too inconvenient to give a shit? Right, keep driving.
Give it a rest guys, live and let live, unless it directly affects your safety/experience on the water; then go at it, with discretion.
Adios lads, always in good fun, enjoy the great weather, have a good weekend!...play safe:)


i needed a nap!. :lol:

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I will take the high road a bit and I think that generally nobody here wants to see anyone hurt. I don't think that anyone was trying to be judgemental with their comments. The one good thing is that we are all full of lots of opinions and it keeps things interesting :) and hopefully it stays that way. We should encourage safe behaviours as it is only a matter of time before the whole boat world is regulated to the point that the thought police get you before you even launch. Oh and don't get my started on the nanny state, that is an entirely different thread waiting to happen....:D

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 PostPosted: September 28th, 2013, 4:17 pm   
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"use you as an anchor"

Total asshole.



On another note.... The coolness factor of the cut off sleeves should be more than enough safety equipment in my eyes.... lol. I love how dudes get into these boats and all of a sudden they are next level badass. It seems to me that running these big cats in calm water straights is child's play.... Keep in mind that the boat is a 32 though and not a 40. Skaters are cool.... But just because you are driving one does not mean that you are.

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Sorry but the whole " look at how much experience I have " bullshit shouldn't cut it anymore !!! Not at all for any High Performance ANYTHING !!!! But hey that's just my opinion. The grim reaper of the water can bite you at anytime no matter who the hell you are or think you are. The very best of the very best have all gotten wet ( in the words of more then a few of the very best "If you haven't then you're not trying hard enough" ) and if seen it personally in Drag , Offshore , Champ , etc etc etc etc. Unless you are the all mighty mythical god and can predict what can happen in the future , your excuse for not wearing the right gear is never good enough. My own excuses at times as well in the past.

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jeff i couldnt agree more,, ever break a steering cable? not cool at 90 mph. shit can and does happen. :D but ghost riding is ok :mrgreen:

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Anyone who thinks 140 is a cakewalk is a moron. Things happen fast even in perfect conditions... Look at this Skater at Lake Cumberland this year.... Both guys died and had way more experience in these boats than the sleeveless guys.

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79jcraft wrote:
Just to clarify" I have kept my personal thoughts and feeling about you to myself..so keep your comments to yourself and I wont use you as an anchor when I finally meet you one day :)
Dude you should have kept your thoughts and feelings to yourself ... but you did not :twisted: We seen you little bullshit message you sent Boomer... WTF Pal ? :evil:



Haha..you read "the" message...how about the 30 messages beforehand Boomer sent me..or the other ones to other members talking shit about me behind my back? Get your facts straight and consider the source. Funny there are 4 of you who stick up for him when the rest of the guys on here and fbc feel the same as myself about him.
He acts like a 6 yr old when he doesn't get what he wants and runs his mouth off all around with no right or reason...he publicly claims he is buying shit from people causing them to not sell their shit and never shows up or has the money to buy the shit. There is no shame in not having the money to buy shit..but there is a problen when you make people lose sales and fuck them around knowing full well you dont have the money for it..my first experience trying to make a deal with him was offering to selk my 703 controls..for $100.. (realy ripping him off cables and all and the battery cables) and when i got it packaged and told him to send the money and i would ship it out, i got a reply that i would get the money sent once he recieved the part (call top gun and ask to do that boomer)...I looked through all his previous posts and saw a shit ton of instances where he put dibbs on things and never showed up and wasting peoples time etc. I know full well I would have spent months chasing that $100 if i ever even got it..im not rich but i do well for myself..but im not gonna let someone rip me off who already has a bad track record buying and selling shit to people... and YOU stick up for him...says a lot about the group who stands by his side..either he has the wool pulled over your eyes or you are as stupid and classless as he is. Granted I don't have much to say on class..I lowered myself to his level with my message and comments..but if I could see him face to face..I woukd just slap him like the bitch he is and be done with it and wouldnt have had to type a single word. ( For visualization purposes..I would have shaken a handful of baby powder in my hand first so you get the cloud effect on contact. )
In othe posts I have read about "bullying" there is one of me..and how many of you guys talking shit about my boat..talking down to me like I am sort sort of pissant..
All of you have talked shit publicly like "bullies" would..but none of you have had the balls to ask boomer for my number to call and talk to me like men.. nice work hypocrite cowards. Dok is the only one in your grouo who hasn't said anything negative..and for that Dok...thankyou..you have helped me a lot and i realky apprexiate it all. , I'm still sending the crankshafts as I promises..whether you join in or not won't change that..I keep my word. But the rest of you...sad group of children..I'm not gonna suck anyone's ass because you guys build great motors..there is no denying that..but if you conduct yourselves like a bunch of douchebags..I'm gonna call you a douchebag..furthermore..if anyone doesn't like it..ill send you my address so I can tell you to your faces..its not worth my time to drive to you to do it because what you all say and do won't change my life.. and Boomer..you are still a bitch in my eyes..not for the size of your bank account..money doesn't make a man..how you conduct yourself and how you treat others around you does..you have a lot of growing up to do. ..you talk about helping the fast boating community...what have you done for anyone other than yourself?


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Just to clarify" I have kept my personal thoughts and feeling about you to myself..so keep your comments to yourself and I wont use you as an anchor when I finally meet you one day :)
Dude you should have kept your thoughts and feelings to yourself ... but you did not :twisted: We seen you little bullshit message you sent Boomer... WTF Pal ? :evil:



Haha..you read "the" message...how about the 30 messages beforehand Boomer sent me..or the other ones to other members talking shit about me behind my back? Get your facts straight and consider the source. Funny there are 4 of you who stick up for him when the rest of the guys on here and fbc feel the same as myself about him.
He acts like a 6 yr old when he doesn't get what he wants and runs his mouth off all around with no right or reason...he publicly claims he is buying shit from people causing them to not sell their shit and never shows up or has the money to buy the shit. There is no shame in not having the money to buy shit..but there is a problen when you make people lose sales and fuck them around knowing full well you dont have the money for it..my first experience trying to make a deal with him was offering to selk my 703 controls..for $100.. (realy ripping him off cables and all and the battery cables) and when i got it packaged and told him to send the money and i would ship it out, i got a reply that i would get the money sent once he recieved the part (call top gun and ask to do that boomer)...I looked through all his previous posts and saw a shit ton of instances where he put dibbs on things and never showed up and wasting peoples time etc. I know full well I would have spent months chasing that $100 if i ever even got it..im not rich but i do well for myself..but im not gonna let someone rip me off who already has a bad track record buying and selling shit to people... and YOU stick up for him...says a lot about the group who stands by his side..either he has the wool pulled over your eyes or you are as stupid and classless as he is. Granted I don't have much to say on class..I lowered myself to his level with my message and comments..but if I could see him face to face..I woukd just slap him like the bitch he is and be done with it and wouldnt have had to type a single word. ( For visualization purposes..I would have shaken a handful of baby powder in my hand first so you get the cloud effect on contact. )
In othe posts I have read about "bullying" there is one of me..and how many of you guys talking shit about my boat..talking down to me like I am sort sort of pissant..
All of you have talked shit publicly like "bullies" would..but none of you have had the balls to ask boomer for my number to call and talk to me like men.. nice work hypocrite cowards. Dok is the only one in your grouo who hasn't said anything negative..and for that Dok...thankyou..you have helped me a lot and i realky apprexiate it all. , I'm still sending the crankshafts as I promises..whether you join in or not won't change that..I keep my word. But the rest of you...sad group of children..I'm not gonna suck anyone's ass because you guys build great motors..there is no denying that..but if you conduct yourselves like a bunch of douchebags..I'm gonna call you a douchebag..furthermore..if anyone doesn't like it..ill send you my address so I can tell you to your faces..its not worth my time to drive to you to do it because what you all say and do won't change my life.. and Boomer..you are still a bitch in my eyes..not for the size of your bank account..money doesn't make a man..how you conduct yourself and how you treat others around you does..you have a lot of growing up to do. ..you talk about helping the fast boating community...what have you done for anyone other than yourself?


Read what you type and ask why I called you a Bully. Whatever Boomer has done to you... It must be pretty bad. I'm glad you and James worked it all out ... So let it go... The big thing with this site is us "four" guys are good friends.


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