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 PostPosted: February 9th, 2016, 9:07 pm   
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phillnjack wrote:
im not here to get shitty with anyone.
I can only write what I know due to having stuff in my possession.

anyway seems this subject has gone way off tangent.


Nope, you're not getting off that easy smart guy. :roll: You started this shit like you seem to love to do. Pretty sure it's how you got banned more than once on other sites. You can't get banned here but neither can I :twisted:

Here's a classic phillnjack post that just resurfaced lately:

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so your just going to make it a 90hp then ? No.
isnt it just the carbs that is the difference in the engines ? No.

Dont forget when you lighten the flywheel you will need to re-balance with the starter ring back in place. He's not planning to use the starter ring
a lighter flywheel will cause a lot of differences, especially at slower speeds. You know this from experience or did the internet tell you?
if its purely a drag race engine then fine, if you use it for recreation its not a good idea at all. It's boatracingfacts.com, not shouldImodifymyfishingengine?.com you fucking idiot
It would be cheaper for the factory to sell the engine with a lighter flywheel, !!!!!!!!!!!! Fuck, you are dumb

i can never understand why people buy new engines that are just big engines with small carbs. You can't understand a lot of things
when secondhand yes its fine as the engine will probably never have been tested to its normal limits.
thanks for the advice...

Here is what I have in hand,

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top- 60hp bridgeport 1" venturi
middle- 70hp 49.7 carb 1.125" venturi
bottom - 75hp stinger carb 1.25" venturi

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top- early 56ci bridgeport or sst60 style carb 1.25" venturi
bottom- later style 70hp brideport car 1.25" venturi

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Last but not least, 50hp twin plastic top 1.25" venturi.

How did I get these measurements you ask? I'll give you a hint - you can stop trying to jam your tape measure down the carb...

Congrats on being the first person in the history of the internet to make me go on a rant like this

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 PostPosted: February 9th, 2016, 9:19 pm   
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Back to the carburetors
Kev is this the model of 50 HP carbs you have?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVINRUDE-JOHNSO ... le&vxp=mtr


That looks like them...

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 PostPosted: February 9th, 2016, 10:33 pm   
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I love it when the unassuming blow a gasket!! 8-)
Funny as hell, I'm still laughing.
Happy B'day Kevi!!
Cheers man.
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 PostPosted: February 9th, 2016, 11:03 pm   
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:shock: … the old unassuming blow a gasket trick... :mrgreen:
Oh ya happy birthday "HEVI" :twisted: Kevi :mrgreen:

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 PostPosted: February 9th, 2016, 11:22 pm   
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Blowing a gasket and a birthday!
Talki about .
Get two birds stoned at once!
What you doing for your b day going to the sheer and breakfast for the weekend lol


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 PostPosted: February 10th, 2016, 11:06 am   
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Ok suppose I need to explain myself incase anyone else dont understand simple stuff or cannot read English.
sorry to those who have far more knowledge than me on flywheels and why they were ever invented in the first place.

please get comfortable and dont have any hot drinks while reading as I take no responsibility for you spitting at the screen.
( this ones an epic even by my standards )

a little bit on the flywheel subject and why I said about it being no good on recreational engine.

The point of heavy flywheels is to keep any engine or moving rotating mass more stable at slow running speeds.
i.e idle and trolling speeds of an outboard engine. (under 1,000 rpm for most 2 strokes)

if you care to look at any engine that has a low speed you will note it has a heavier flywheel than something designed for higher spin speeds (revolution), normaly these engines are not spending any length of time slow running.
the revs need to be kept at a higher speed !!.

example , a slow running diesel engine like the petter or lister single cylinder engines that you can hear the rpm of the
piston going up and down.
Gardener 120 140 180 diesels with huge flywheels, AEC engines, and lots of other heavy industrial slow running engines
that spend a lot of time at just above idle.
truck engines that only rev to a maximum of 2,000 rpm also need a heavy flywheel for their low idling speeds.

so lets take a fishing motor outboard engine used for recreational use and slow fishing.
why would you use a lightened flywheel on that engine when its not going to have a good low speed idle or trolling speed.
The lightened flywheel is not going to give mega amount of difference to a high speed engine, but will give quicker acceleration that is not as noticeable to its acceleration as its noticeability is when trying to run at a trolling speed.
to have a flywheel lightened for a fishing / recreational motor is not a good idea, and if you take time to go read again youl see that is what I was saying. (not rocket science, infact Very old engineering that stand s true even today

if on a full race engine then obviously yes the lightened flywheel can be good.

so yes i still stand by what I said, a light flywheel is no good for slow running ON A RECREATIONAL ENGINE !!!.
have a lightened flywheels of my own in the past or done this YES I have worked with a few flywheels, some
weighing as little as a few ounces and some weighing over 200 kilo ( 400 plus pounds ).

BRF not being about slow boats.
not everyone on that forum races boats, and not everyone who looks on forums wants an engine that will only last a few hours .
Lots of recreational boaters go on lots of forums about fast boats.
cream and dry is about fast boats mainly, but over 50% of its members also have fishing boats and ski boats.
on that forum just like brf there are fast cabin cruisers, and even houseboats, inflatables and antique boats running
3 hp motors, they are NOT RACE BOATS.

Now the carbs.
top carb you posted has a touch bigger venturi than the 60hp oval ports I have here (by the looks of your photos)
60hp oval port is UNDER 1 inch in the venturi, a proper technical 1 inch rod will not go in the venturi !!!
yes I have a true 1 inch engineering rod .
I suppose being as ive had them over 30 years you will say they have shrunk :roll:

as for the rest of your pics I would say they are ALL smaller venturi than the carbs on my engine again by looking at the photos you posted .
sst60 carbs are 1.25 inch yes that is correct, but who told you the oval port 70hp carbs are exactly 1.25 inch ?
go check them out yourself, 1.250 inch is not a good fit by a long way !!!
No I have not yet got an exact measurement, this I will do as ive said a few times in the last couple of days.



Now have I been banned from a few forums , oh yes 100%
mainly because of thick people like you who cant decide what lie to tell next.or try and twist something to their advantage.
first off
I got banned from BRF for calling mike white a queer no good redneck cunt after he would not stop sending me private messages telling me he will hound me forever and not get off my case. Mmm big mistake on his part.
he then started the abuse and got a bit back, then he thought he was going to shock me with abuse.
well when I explained to him about his parentage and it being so wrong to have a mum and sister and cousin as the same person , he did not like that.
you see whatever he tried to shit on me with he got back 10 fold, so off he trots to his gay friends and they too start the pm crap.
but these poor souls were not even in the same league let alone the same team, they had no idea how far it had gone up the charts.
so they got well and truly fucked off out the frame.
aso M white starts agin and just cannot stop, go ask him yourself if I offered him a truce and to just let it go.
he would have no truce so it carried on. over the next week or so he was in tears and went running to admin saying I was stalking him ha ha ha . yes the same bloke who started it all in pm's and wouldn't stop.
I turned the table back he didn't like it and went running to his friends for back up.
you know typical tough yank, start a fight then call everyone for help.. not my fault if some prick trys it on then comes unstuck.
check out the posts again, you might notice it the sabine river gay gang that I did not get along with to well.
I dont like to be associated with the big bear types that like to go messing with the young boys in the woods if
you get my drift.
you have no idea of the personal messages I got on brf from the team leader M WHITE.

One of the admins on the site who shares a cabin with him (in the woods !!!) backed him up all the way.
Only to be expected from a bum chum.
and yep I got banned. big deal.
go back and notice I got banned 3 times from there not just once but 3 times.
oh and the member H Gipson is also Mwhite, it was a character made up to back up a couple of posts.
I know H Gipson as he came onto a forum I ran and the ip address was identical, the server was same server.
street name same street and house the same house.

on cream and try one of his little boyfriends OMC STRATOS tried the crap again ,but poor soul didn't get the back up he wanted so stopped due to not realy being upto taking flack back.
poor boy could only muster the word troll.but even that he couldn't spell until pointed out to him.

so yep I got banned from the brf, but that is a 50 -50 site to be honest, half bullshit half true.
the trouble with dealing with rednecks is 2/3rds of them dont know what the other 1/2 are saying or meaning.

and your statement about not being banned on here. I dont quite think that is true.
believe me I think it is possible for me to be banned, as I m sure you will go running for back up OR the admins
will have enough and get rid of me for a while. probably lock the post after you have last shout.

oh by the way I am also banned from strictly omc, but according to the admin/owner im not ?
go look to see who moderators are , yep the moonshine bridgade.

it seems that a lot of people realy dont like it up em when showed to be liars or totally 100% proven to be wrong.
a few not understanding that 7,000 rpm with 15 prop on 1.86 dont get anywhere near 80mph.
yep I got told I didn't know what I was talking about as that it was their gps says and gps is 100% accurate ha ha ha

so keep it up, im sure youl try and find another snippet or two try and make me look bad, I dont mind, infact I often enjoy explaining stuff to those who dont understand English v yank v redneck.

I am still waiting for your excuse about what you wrote on the brf about the small 70 carbs ?
This should be real interesting for me and lots of people reading this.

sorry to those who have to read this crap, but im sureit will amuse some of you on these cold nights.
give you something to laugh about.
although some will find it realy hard to know the facts and find its suicidaly boring (not even sure if suicidaly is a word)
but thought I had atleast to explain things to those who have no idea what went on.
Lots of stuff on the net gets misinterpreted due to language barriers and rednecks not being able to read big words

if there is anything I have missed out I am sure youl let me know .
I will try to keep it a bit clean ish, but cant 100% guarantee anything .

oh and

Happy Birdthday to Hevi Kevi :lol: :mrgreen: :D

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 PostPosted: February 10th, 2016, 11:26 am   
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:lol:
This is going to have me giggling to myself all day at the shop.
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 PostPosted: February 10th, 2016, 11:37 am   
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On the flywheel deal...the difference is not measurable for acceleration or top end rpm. Some SAY it may have some affect on handling (less weight/gyro up high)...but the only fact is that it does nothing to help or hinder actual performance. They do look cool though...

I still can't understand why you want to pick Internet fights with guys that have proven fast versions of your motor. You may not like what or how they say it but...shit...they're fast...well for SLOMC'S...

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 PostPosted: February 10th, 2016, 11:39 am   
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DoktorC wrote:
On the flywheel deal...the difference is not measurable for acceleration or top end rpm. Some SAY it may have some affect on handling (less weight/gyro up high)...but the only fact is that it does nothing to help or hinder actual performance. They do look cool though...

I still can't understand why you want to pick Internet fights with guys that have proven fast versions of your motor. You may not like what or how they say it but...shit...they're fast...well for SLOMC'S...


are you going to ban him ?


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 PostPosted: February 10th, 2016, 11:42 am   
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OneCycle wrote:
DoktorC wrote:
On the flywheel deal...the difference is not measurable for acceleration or top end rpm. Some SAY it may have some affect on handling (less weight/gyro up high)...but the only fact is that it does nothing to help or hinder actual performance. They do look cool though...

I still can't understand why you want to pick Internet fights with guys that have proven fast versions of your motor. You may not like what or how they say it but...shit...they're fast...well for SLOMC'S...


are you going to ban him ?



Fuck that...this is hilarious.

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