It is currently November 21st, 2024, 9:50 pm

Old Streams Comp compared to production

View active topics

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 
Author Message
 PostPosted: October 31st, 2015, 4:51 pm   
Member
User avatar

Joined: August 29th, 2013, 10:02 pm
Posts: 65
Location: Victoria, BC
Comparing the comp models to regular production, I can see they run more stingers and no core, no floor and probably a lighter deck. If a guy wanted to take an old rotten Vking or something similar and try to modify it for drag racing could you pull the core material all out and replace with stringers? Are the hulls the same shape or modified for racing?

_________________
91 Voyager 300X


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 11:16 am   
Member
User avatar

Joined: August 12th, 2012, 8:37 pm
Posts: 2699
Location: lake Muskoka
Same shape i'v heard of people pulling the core out and laying down some 1708 instead replacing the core.. I wouldn't want to lake run in one like that

_________________
Image
89 excel 91 valero,81mph sold
1988 baja x 15, chopped to 13'11" modvp Bridgeport 91mph
19' tempest picklefork 84 mod vpcarb 102mph


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 11:30 am   
HPBC PRESIDENT
User avatar

Joined: March 31st, 2012, 5:53 pm
Posts: 3548
Location: Lapping lil charger
BoomerMuskoka wrote:
Same shape i'v heard of people pulling the core out and laying down some 1708 instead replacing the core.. I wouldn't want to lake run in one like that


Ya...I think you'd need a lot of material particularly in the pad area to have enough strength. I'm sure it's slightly easier to build it without core but I can't see it being any lighter.

_________________
08 SRV w/3.1 Hydro-tec Phase lll

I've got enough torque to tear a hole....in time...


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 9:34 pm   
Member
User avatar

Joined: August 29th, 2013, 10:02 pm
Posts: 65
Location: Victoria, BC
So the weight savings on a comp model is with the lighter deck and eliminating the floor. I wonder why they didn't just put a core in them if there is no difference in weight?

_________________
91 Voyager 300X


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 9:45 pm   
HPBC PRESIDENT
User avatar

Joined: March 31st, 2012, 5:53 pm
Posts: 3548
Location: Lapping lil charger
J.Kimmerly wrote:
So the weight savings on a comp model is with the lighter deck and eliminating the floor. I wonder why they didn't just put a core in them if there is no difference in weight?


No idea....but core isn't heavy compared to plywood stringers lol...and there isn't that much core in them anyway.

_________________
08 SRV w/3.1 Hydro-tec Phase lll

I've got enough torque to tear a hole....in time...


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 9:57 pm   
Team Member

Joined: April 4th, 2012, 8:42 pm
Posts: 397
Core hardly weighs anything. At least I don't think it weighs anything. This site says 4.5 -16 lb per cubic foot.
http://www.compositesworld.com/articles ... -laminates
How much core would their be in a Vking? My estimate is less than 100 lb
Or is it the resin that's added to the core that adds weight?


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 PostPosted: November 1st, 2015, 10:42 pm   
Member
User avatar

Joined: August 12th, 2012, 8:37 pm
Posts: 2699
Location: lake Muskoka
DoktorC wrote:
J.Kimmerly wrote:
So the weight savings on a comp model is with the lighter deck and eliminating the floor. I wonder why they didn't just put a core in them if there is no difference in weight?


No idea....but core isn't heavy compared to plywood stringers lol...and there isn't that much core in them anyway.


depends on when it was built :lol: you dont have to put in a full core. i would want some in the pad and up maybe a foot on either side of the pad.. then i would do stringers the same way Rfotes did on his vector.

_________________
Image
89 excel 91 valero,81mph sold
1988 baja x 15, chopped to 13'11" modvp Bridgeport 91mph
19' tempest picklefork 84 mod vpcarb 102mph


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 PostPosted: November 2nd, 2015, 12:43 am   
Member
User avatar

Joined: August 29th, 2013, 10:02 pm
Posts: 65
Location: Victoria, BC
Thanks for the info guys. Im trying to figure out what i want to run next year for the drags.

_________________
91 Voyager 300X


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 PostPosted: November 2nd, 2015, 7:46 am   
Team Member
User avatar

Joined: October 2nd, 2012, 7:53 am
Posts: 947
Location: Peterborough
BoomerMuskoka wrote:
DoktorC wrote:
J.Kimmerly wrote:
So the weight savings on a comp model is with the lighter deck and eliminating the floor. I wonder why they didn't just put a core in them if there is no difference in weight?


No idea....but core isn't heavy compared to plywood stringers lol...and there isn't that much core in them anyway.


depends on when it was built :lol: you dont have to put in a full core. i would want some in the pad and up maybe a foot on either side of the pad.. then i would do stringers the same way Rfotes did on his vector.

This is how my core was laid up, but I went with a floor and 2 stringers to keep the boat rigid.

_________________
1988 Canadian Edition Vision sold
1990 Hydrostream Virage Stage 3 Turbo


Top
 Profile Send private message  
 PostPosted: November 2nd, 2015, 3:31 pm   
Team Member
User avatar

Joined: April 3rd, 2012, 1:52 pm
Posts: 3162
I never saw any of the comp streams other than the VooDoos. The materials available now are much better [stronger and lighter compared to the 80's] The light comp VooDoo's weighed in at 150 to 160 lbs. Some broke in half very quickly....MOST! A few comp VooDoo I saw in the early 2000s were still together and still running. It all depended on the lay up, where it was raced and who raced it. I had a lot more experience with Checkmates. The early comp ones 1967 to 1972 held up better than their 73 to 75 comp boats.


Top
 Profile Send private message  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 10 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 17 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Style originally created by Volize © 2003 • Redesigned SkyLine by MartectX © 2008 - 2010