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Here is a spec sheet for a T motor.
The BLUE PRINTING text is on the bottom of the page.

http://www.apba.org/sites/all/files/documents/60.pdf

The text also appears on the spec APBA sheets for the other motors in our class. Tohatsu, Yamaha etc.

(509 is details on a safety cell and straping the driver in)
You don't have to follow the UIM rules... countries are allowed to adjust to suit their region. I'm just saying in 2012 no UIM T class permitted trim without a safety cell. Maybe you are reading RYA rules or something? I've not read them.


Thanks Andrew, that is interesting for sure. I did communicated with the T racers in England a while back.
They told me they were going to change the rule to allow non-celled boats to run power trim. They also indicated they were going to allow a 90 hp 69
cubic inch motor in theT850 class. It could race, but not get any points. I assumed their relationship with UIM was the same as ours with CBF.
They would have to do a formal UIM rule change same as we do with CBF. That was why I made the statement in the post.
The UIM race clubs obviously have more flexibility over there and more say in what they do. I think we should bring this fact up at the CBF Convention.
Interested people on this site say CBF is too constructed and complex. Maybe we can convince CBF to loosen things up a bit.
What do you think?

Like I've said 100's of times... if anyone doesn't like the rules, change them. There is no rule saying you have to follow UIM. If you want to hold a UIM sanctioned race you have to follow UIM to the letter. If it's just a CBF race, CBF for the most part does not care what you race or what you do. AS LONG AS YOU FOLLOW THE RULES YOU WRITE! You want "1000cc Yama-Merc-OMC-1972 this and 1995 this and 2008 this machine down to match this frankenmotors", who cares. "Just Do it!" Just make the rules say you can.

ThunderCat TC750 and X Class rules are basicaly this an it was approved no problem by CBF "If it visually looks stock outside the cowls, it's legal" We don't care whats under the cowl or what you did to it. If it's under 950cc, race it.

CBF will look twice at anything deemed by the BOD eyes as a safety rule, only natural.

Also if things change greatly, or something key changes, expect to be reviewed by the insurer and prices adjust accordingly. Big whoop. Of course that would happen.

Andrew, its the wording and number of the rules that I am a problem with. I would like to see a shorten simplified version. I am working on short version for the T guys which is becoming very difficult because of the current wordings being so complex to understand and I am in the insurance forms business. so I can understand what they are like for someone without my experience.

I agree GRR and some SO rules are a mess and a lot of it 40 years of date.

I submit 20-30 rule changes every year just cleaning things up. I can only do so much and to this point the only one with an interest in cleaning it up.

As said above though... it's the racers issue, not CBF. It is up to the racers to keep things the way they want and neat and current in the rule books. CBF just approves the changes the racers want. If racers do nothing, nothing will change.

This will give you the idea of my short version.

GENERAL RACING RULES

RULE 1 MANAGEMENT
(1-A) Races and racers are under the control and direction of a Race Committee…do what they tell you.
(1-B) A race incident decision is a Race Committee decision.
(1-C) No member of any Race Committee can have conflict of interest.

RULE 2 SANCTIONS
(2-A) SANCTION: paper work to have the race.
(2-B) COURSE is laid out by member of race committee.
(2-C) Officials decide on class number of heats and number of laps.
(2-D) MEASURER a person that measurers the length of the boat.
(2-E) TIMER is an official
(2-F) SURVEYOR measures the course
(2-G) Chief Surveyor of the C.B.F approves course if asked..
(2-G-1) The course is measured pin to pin.
(2-G-2) Officials decide on the layout of course.
(2-H-1) Any departure from General or Technical Rules must be on sanction C.B.F. race circular.
(2-I) No sanction is granted without a Club or Association member of the Canadian Boating Federation.
(2-K) RACE REPORTS The Chief Scorer send them in.
(2-K-1) All regatta records, summary sheets, applications for records etc., are forwarded by the Racing Committee.

GENERAL RACING RULES - 2
(2-L) SANCTION FEES price you pay to have the race.
(2-L-1) No records or racing results considered official until sanction fee is paid.
(2-L-2) Race announcements can be mailed by CBF for a fee.
(2-M) REQUIREMENTS No sanction valid until approved by the Referee
(2-M-1) posted prizes as advertised
(2-M-2) Security to protect the equipment of the owner and driver.
(2-M-3) Proper officials are in place.
(2-M-4) Course is safe.
(2-M-5) Ambulance and adequate first aid on site.
(2-M-6) Patrol boats in place.
(2-M-7) Turn judges boats in place..
(2-M-8) Rescue boats in place
(2-N) Several Regattas in different areas can be on the same day.
(2-O) Negotiations between a Club and a Sponsor or a Prospective Sponsor are one club at a time.
(2-O-1) One or more clubs may negotiate with the same Commercial Sponsor . They must coordinate negotiations and play fair.
(2-O-2) Sites are the domain of the Club which is currently using that location.
(2-O-3) New sites are those without races in the last three years.
(2-O-4) Site negotiations are confidential .
(2-O-5) Another club should not interfere.
(2-O-6) Only a CBF Member Club may apply for a Sanction.
(2-O-6-A) "Sponsor" can be a "Prospective Sponsor".

GENERAL RACING RULES - 3
(2-O-6-B) All race dates posted by Club who holds race.
RULE 3 OWNERSHIP
(3-A) Each boat must have an owner on registration form. Owner has voting rights.
(3-B) Corporations or Business concerns will not be allowed to compete with Club Members
(3-C) A new owner-member of a boat needs confirmation of the old owner.
(3-D) Any Racing Member may drive any registered boat provided the registered owner signs the entry blank.
RULE 4 ENTRIES
(4-A) No entrant shall be considered official until the driver is properly registered.
(4-B) No racing equipment in the pits without being registered to race.
(4-C) Filing false or incorrect information on entry blank is cause for suspension of owner and driver.
(4-D) Referee and/or Chief Scorer can decide to accept any entry made after registration and impose the penalty
(4-E) There is a time limit for registration
(4-F) A driver or owner placed in the incorrect division or class and shall not start in a race in which he is not entitled to run.
(4-G) Driver or owner must supply verification of the information required on the entry blank.

Question and answer
Did OMC make pull start only motors?

Yes, commercial models and they even made the 3 cylinder as a pull start only. You would save some weight for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yArf22J37sE

T Class update.....Where we are at November 2012...looking to 2013 race season.
Just so there is no misunderstanding, hearsay or confusion caused by previous posts on this thread.

Safety Checks and the check list.
-Your boat will be pre-race inspected at every race. It will take less than 15 minutes provided you are prepared and have the boat rigged properly.
-The last check is on the launch ramp. That gives you time to get the correct safety gear.

Motor Tech Checks
- your motor must look legal, sound legal and smell legal. It must look and perform like the other similar motors in the class.
- you must give the inspector your completed Motor inspection sheet. You only do it once, unless you change motors. The reason is to place your boat is its best suited heat and to start a motor history record. We do not have any history yet on ETEC and 4 stroke motors.
- your motor compression will be checked in pre-race safety inspection

The T Booklet
- it will be available spring 2013. It will outline in simple language everything you need to know as to rules and just as important what is expected of you.

Question and answer
Who are the current people with T boats?

Now you will see why we need to be more organized

I will start with the new people. WELCOME TO T BOAT
Kevin M has a T850 Rapid Craft
Craig F has a T850 Critchfield
Tunnelly has a T750 Delta
Dave E has an T850 Critchfield
Erik has an T850 Critchfield
Steff has an T750 Delta
Ryley has a T750 Rapid Craft
Paul C has a T750 Delta
Steve S has a T850 SSV Baker
Chris W has a T850 Critchfield
Rusty W - T850 Critchfield
Tim T has a T850 Critchfield
Steve R has a T850 VooDoo
Thats 12 new boats in 2013

Here are the returning group
Bryan G has a T850 Critchfield
Dave M has a T750 Allison
Paul C has a T850 Delta
Erik has a T850 VooDoo
Erik Z has a T850 Delta
Rick C has a T850 VooDoo
Jake E has a T850 Critchfield
Dave W has a T750 Oasis
Mike C has a T850 VooDoo
Jim W has a T850 Critchfield
Todd B has a T850 Critchfield
Larry has a T850 Critchfield
Shivers has a T850 VooDoo

Thats 13 more

Still working on their boats
Doug has a T850 Critchfield
John has a T850 Critchfield
Paul O has a T850 Delta
Randy W has a T850 Allison
Rusty W has a T850 Critchfield

Thats 5 more

Interested in T750 or T850
Jason [2]
Rob T
Mike H
Jamie A
Angelo
James C
Scott W

Thats 8 more

Intersted in GT30
5 more

TOTAL 43 BOATS

That is amazing!!!!