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Who is this amateur company still using balsa core?
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Author:  BoomerMuskoka [ March 17th, 2016, 9:45 pm ]
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phillnjack wrote:
when someone says they have an all composite boat, what exactly is the composite ?
is this composite 100% the same material all through the boat ?
can they tell you the exact material used in this "composite " structure

will they give you a piece of this composite to have a look at and examine before you buy one of their boats ?

composite in boats normally means SHIT.


so i suppose most all new Allisons are shit then.. Thanks for your Expert Advice Philinjack i'll make sure i wont buy one of those shitty new Allisons EVER. :roll:
Author:  David [ March 18th, 2016, 8:24 pm ]
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I do wonder if my composite Allison will last the rest of my life. Seems mint so far at 15 years.
Author:  BoomerMuskoka [ March 18th, 2016, 10:36 pm ]
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David wrote:
I do wonder if my composite Allison will last the rest of my life. Seems mint so far at 15 years.


i bet its about to turn to dust, i wouldn't risk my life in a shitty old Allison built with superior quality and materials .. :roll: and Balsa forget it.. Every one knows the one trid and true core material is chopped up news paper...naturally, i forgot about this one.. hydrostreams of the 90's are known for their rugged dependability and ability to survive the elements.. why has no body mentioned this???? !!!!! :| its clearly the Best stuff on the market today..
Author:  David [ March 19th, 2016, 8:56 am ]
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So far my SS2000 is holding up better than some other boats that are for sale here. Two are only 2-3 years older than mine and substantially rebuilt. Of course my composite core could be dust and how would I know?

My old 1990 Hydrostream has been restored twice since I sold it.

I am hoping my Ally lasts another 20 years. Allison thinks it can. "Allison boats are built to last more than a lifetime"

Do any old Skaters that have not been abused (example non sealed holes drilled) need cores, transom, floors?
Author:  Murph [ March 19th, 2016, 8:59 am ]
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BoomerMuskoka wrote:
David wrote:
I do wonder if my composite Allison will last the rest of my life. Seems mint so far at 15 years.


i bet its about to turn to dust, i wouldn't risk my life in a shitty old Allison built with superior quality and materials .. :roll: and Balsa forget it.. Every one knows the one trid and true core material is chopped up news paper...naturally, i forgot about this one.. hydrostreams of the 90's are known for their rugged dependability and ability to survive the elements.. why has no body mentioned this???? !!!!! :| its clearly the Best stuff on the market today..



Simple, nobody wanted to mention that Hydrostream had no clue how to build with Balsa then. They actually thought Balsa was water proof. If not, they might of used some resin and cloth to install it. :lol:
Author:  DoktorC [ March 19th, 2016, 9:33 am ]
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Murph wrote:


Simple, nobody wanted to mention that Hydrostream had no clue how to build with Balsa then. They actually thought Balsa was water proof. If not, they might of used some resin and cloth to install it. :lol:


"Engineered" obsolescence lol.

Alliston is obviously built correctly because you don't see them falling apart..but...the skater in the above thread is on a different level.
Author:  Dougw [ March 19th, 2016, 10:14 am ]
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I always thought the "rot" started because of the flotation foam that was used in the 80's and 90's was open cell foam and absorbed water like a sponge. That crap would freeze and thaw every year and never dry out. Many manufacturers didn't resin the wood on all 4 sides allowing the water to soak into the wood. Even though the composite might not "rot" what is stopping it from fracturing and breaking down from constant pounding over time. Has anyone ever put a piece of balsa core (premium grade) and composite material side be side and start pounding each one with a hammer....my money is on the balsa.
Author:  dubber [ March 19th, 2016, 11:44 pm ]
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Either way while I appreciate the build of this skater and will watch from afar I have no interest in attempting an around the world tour in it. I mean he hasn't considered the fact that he could be rammed by a giant white sperm whale. Poop gets real out in the middle of the ocean.
Author:  OneCycle [ March 20th, 2016, 10:05 am ]
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i think i read that its going to hold 1600 gallons? nothing like a 6,000.00 dollar fill up.
Author:  David [ March 20th, 2016, 8:05 pm ]
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Thanks for the original post. It is quite a project. Surprising how fast they expect a 50 foot boat to go without crazy power.
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